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January 30, 2008

The official and likely incomplete rules to my family's version of "Thirty-One"

First of all, the website Wikipedia has an entire entry on the card game Thirty-One if you desire to become the world's premiere authority on this card game. But we just play for fun and quarters.

This is how my family plays the card game Thirty-One:

Each person starts with three quarters (and once you lose all three quarters, which happened to me multiple times this weekend, you play on your "honor" and if you lose that... well. You are probably me.)

Dealer shuffles, using a standard 52-card deck with jokers removed. In my family we have enough jokers already!

Deal three cards to each player, place the deck in the middle of the table and turn one card up. (Here is a tip: If you are playing this game while wine is involved, be sure to have a little item -- we use a toy monkey -- to hand to the dealer along with the card deck. This way you always know who's turn it is to deal, even when Cabernet comes to town.)

So, dealer gives each player three cards, sets the deck on the table, turns one card face up in what will become the discard pile. The first player to go can choose the card that was turned up or draw from the deck. At all times you have three cards (you must discard one card after each draw.)

The object of the game is to get to 31, or to have a high enough hand that you knock on the table and hope the other players have less in card value than you do.

Winning Strategy Numero Uno: Getting 31
Each ACE card counts as 11 points. All face cards (king, queen and jack) count as 10 points. All other cards are their numerical value (a two is two points, a five is five points.) ALL CARDS IN YOUR HAND MUST BE THE SAME SUIT TO COUNT. You want to get an ace and two face cards or an ace, a ten and a face card to make 31. If you draw 31 at any time during the game, you automatically show your cards and win on the spot.

*** When a hand of cards is won by drawing 31, each of the other players puts one of their quarters in the pot.

Winning Strategy Numero Dos: Getting more points than the other folks and knocking
To win in this way, you hope to collect enough high cards in the same suit faster than anyone else and knock when you think you have more in your hand than at least one of your opponents.

For example, let's say I have an ace of hearts, a ten of hearts and a two of spades. Then the next card I draw is an eight of hearts (discard the loathsome two of spades.) That leaves me with 29 points in my hand, so the next time it's my turn... instead of picking up a card from the draw pile, I knock. Each of the other players gets one last chance to draw before we show our cards (you see why this is risky -- what if one of the other players has two great cards and draws an ace or something? Risky! Fun!)

Then you all show your hands. If you get beaten numerically by the other players, you have to put in two quarters! But if at least one player is a bigger loser than you are, that person puts in their quarter.

I once had a five of spades, a four of spades and a six of hearts. Therefore, when my dad knocked (THANKS A LOT DAD) I had a rockin' nine points. It was so so sad ... for me.

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Each hand of cards goes really fast, which I like because the games don't drag out. I LOVE this game! It is so much fun, and winner takes all the quarters! You keep playing hands until it's down to just two players, and whoever wins gets the moolah and all the HONOR!


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Posted by laurie at January 30, 2008 08:51 AM

Comments

If I ever get the hang of UNO, I am so learning Thirty One!

Posted by: Anonymous at January 30, 2008 09:13 AM

Duh! The first time I comment first, and I forget to sign in.

Posted by: BellaKarma.com at January 30, 2008 09:15 AM

Okay - we are SO having game night after dinner tonite!

Posted by: Amanda at January 30, 2008 09:15 AM

I'm confused.

Posted by: Laurie (too) at January 30, 2008 09:23 AM

This game is even riskier when you play with your laundry quarters. You lose, you smell.

Posted by: Marilyn at January 30, 2008 09:23 AM

You Poker
You brought her

Posted by: psychomom at January 30, 2008 09:30 AM

Ok, that is too much fun..I hafta print this so I can play it the next time I'm with all my cousins; mix it up a little between uno, spoons, i doubt it (aka bs) and authors..

Posted by: Betsy at January 30, 2008 09:41 AM

Oh my gosh, Laurie, you just brought back so many memories of sitting on my grandma's back porch, playing this game with my grandparents and parents and brothers and sisters. Granted, we played with pennies, and called it "Scat," but it's the same exact game.

That was a walk down memory lane! Thank you!

Posted by: SpaceCase at January 30, 2008 09:42 AM

We play something similar and call it “Moleass”, as in “slow as Molasses.” We have a few Yankees, non-southerners, in our group of friends who had no idea what Molasses was or why it was slow. Calling it 31 would be more civilized but that is just how we roll. We play with a dollar bill and you get to lose 4 times or fold all four corners of the bill before you are on your honor. We always crumple our bill into the tiniest ball possible when we go on honor, just to tick off the winner. We love it because you can play for a long time, only lose $1 but could also take home the whole pot. I tried to play with parking tokens one time, instead of a real dollar and that just didn’t go over well. It is funny how games evolve in a group.

Posted by: Nik at January 30, 2008 09:45 AM

My grandma taught us to play this as kids ... but from reading your entry - she CHEATED.... we were never allowed to keep the money in the pot ... hmmm, conspiracy - I think so ...

Posted by: Steph at January 30, 2008 09:47 AM

Hey! We played this. Only we called it Tonk. And no body got to keep the money.
Well... my stepdad got to keep the money. Hey! I was robbed!

Posted by: Milli at January 30, 2008 09:53 AM

In less than a month I'm going to a big spinning/knitting gathering. Can one play with yarn instead of quarters?

Posted by: Lucia at January 30, 2008 09:54 AM

This has nothing at all to do with cards.

Do you all think it would be weird if I just up and started writing bodice-ripper romance novels? Wouldn't that be fun? It sounds more fun than self-help. And, um, the genre *is* kind of helpy, in a way....

Posted by: laurie at January 30, 2008 09:55 AM

Not wierd, do it and write a few murder mysteries while you're at it. That would be theraputic for moi.

Posted by: psychomom at January 30, 2008 10:00 AM

mmmm... murder mysteries, eh?

I just want to write something fun and trashy LOL. Is that so wrong??

Posted by: laurie at January 30, 2008 10:01 AM

Do what ever it takes for fun, you dirty, dirty girl.

Posted by: psychomom at January 30, 2008 10:05 AM

Oh yeah! I've played this game! Except I think we all started with a dollar. If you lost the hand you folded a corner of your dollar. (Not losing does not result in you unfolding a corner.) Once all four corners of your dollar are folded, it goes in to the pot. You have one more hand to try and reclaim your dollar...if you succeed, you retrieve it (but again, the corners stay folded). Last man standing gets all the money! The only thing I miss about my estranged relatives is the card playing...it was soooo much fun.

Posted by: nekkidknitter at January 30, 2008 10:08 AM

You should write one. I went to a romance convention (for romance readers and writers) a few years ago and had a great time. Mind you, there were plenty of women there and few men. The bodice rippers are out of fashion now, but there are lots of opportunities for other romance types. I think I heard that the romances are the best selling books.

Posted by: kathleen2 at January 30, 2008 10:11 AM

HA! I used to play this with my Grandma, but we called it Scat.
Fun!

Posted by: Kelly at January 30, 2008 10:12 AM

Scat. A bunch of us get together about twice a month. We drink, we eat, and we cuss each other. Good times.

Posted by: Therese at January 30, 2008 10:17 AM

You probably already know this stuff but, here are some romance websites: http://www.rwanational.org/ The romantic times magazine (I can't get the website up) This is a book that I though was really good. It's old but good: http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?isbn=0451165314

Posted by: kathleen2 at January 30, 2008 10:20 AM

Gee you look cute with those bangs!

This is one card game I might actually convince my husband to try. He doesn't play cards since he doesn't know how to play so he always looses and boy does he hate that! (so he just won't play MORE). No skill, no learning curve -- he would have a chance to win :)
Thanks!

Posted by: Leslie in Mass at January 30, 2008 10:21 AM

This is the group card game of choice in my family too, except we call it "Scat" instead of 31. Also, only the first person our gets to play on their honor, which we call a "belly ride" as in 'first person out gets a belly ride' or 'they're on their belly this round'.

Also, we all put a $1 or $5 (now that we're older) into a cup to "buy" our 3 pennies, and last one in wins the whole pot.

It's a lot of fun - I'm a huge fan, especially since it's a game that even the younger kids can play (Wist and Pitch are usually too complex until the kids/cousins are in high school at the least.)

Posted by: Jackie at January 30, 2008 10:29 AM

Oh, and 3 of a kind (three 2s, three 10s, three Queen's, or what have you) automatically equal 30. A risky strategy, but a fun twist on the rules I think.

Posted by: Jackie at January 30, 2008 10:31 AM

That post brought back memories of playing this as a kid with a huge group of family on Thanksgiving in my great aunt's basement. We played with nickels back then.

Posted by: Melanie at January 30, 2008 10:37 AM

Thanks for posting the rules for 31. I'm playing it this weekend!

You should definitely write the romance novel. You could totally make it in your own voice and it would be fresh and new and everyone would like it and even people that didn't normally read them would have to start.

Melanie (who met you in Mission Viejo with her younger man, who passed the Menendez brother test, in tow.

Posted by: Melanie at January 30, 2008 10:45 AM

A little different than my family's rules.
- We play with four quarters each. (or dollars, pennies, toothpicks.... we just love to play!)
- We also have a rule where three of a kind automatically wins. So if you had that dreaded 2 of spades, and then a 2 of hearts came up in the discard or pick-up pile on your turn: you may want to try for twos.

Yeah! I've been introducing this game to my friends and it's just so much fun!

Posted by: Julianne at January 30, 2008 10:54 AM

you should write a bodice ripper. And a mystery. And maybe something from another genre too.
This game sounds like fun, educational for my children, and less noisy than Yahtzee. I'm totally taking their money!!

Posted by: suetreiber at January 30, 2008 10:54 AM

So, if I use all my quarters, I'm out, right? That's how you get down to two players, right? Sounds fun.

Posted by: Julie at January 30, 2008 10:59 AM

We never played 31, but we would play Euchre for dimes when I was a kid. And Michigan Rummy.

I'll try to get the family to look into this one. Sounds like lots of fun.

Maybe you could write a romantic mystery novel? Two genres at once!

Posted by: Mary in Boston at January 30, 2008 11:18 AM

This is almost identical to my family's rules for 31 - except... when you knock and get beaten you only have to put in 1 quarter. Its when one of your opponents gets 31 after you knock that you put in 2....

(And, we play with dimes. We are cheap, and risk-adversant)

Posted by: melissa Gaul at January 30, 2008 11:55 AM

Okay, this is truly weird but for most of my adult life, I thought this was something my French-Canadian grandmother made up. The rules were exactly the same, only we played with five pennies (!) and once they were all gone (into the "pot" which was an old saucer -- teacup long broken), you got one more hand on "relief" which was Nana's word for Social Security. But once your "relief" turn ended, you were "out"!

I suspect for the first twenty years of my life, we kept circulating the same fifty pennies over and over and over again. I wonder what happened to the saucer.

Thanks for bringing back old memories.

Posted by: Leslie at January 30, 2008 12:00 PM

Curses for it being a toy monkey!

I was so imagining a real live monkey seated with the dealer and all hell breaking loose when Caberbnet and his chum Sauvignon got their feet under the table.


I think that monkey would probably have been wearing one of those green baize peaks and the arm gaiter/protector things like a telegraph operator from an old Western.

Posted by: trashalou at January 30, 2008 12:08 PM

Curses for it being a toy monkey!

I was so imagining a real live monkey seated with the dealer and all hell breaking loose when Caberbnet and his chum Sauvignon got their feet under the table.


I think that monkey would probably have been wearing one of those green baize peaks and the arm gaiter/protector things like a telegraph operator from an old Western.

Posted by: trashalou at January 30, 2008 12:09 PM

Oh! That is why your comments section yelled at me!

Sorry. I didn't mean to post the same thing twice!

Posted by: trashalou at January 30, 2008 12:11 PM

We played that game too. But we called it Blitz! We played with 3 nickels but I guess with inflation and all.... Still a lot of fun no matter what you call it.

Posted by: Mindy at January 30, 2008 12:59 PM

sounds like fun! we are homeschooling- maybe we can work that in somehow. math, right?

Posted by: Tonja at January 30, 2008 01:17 PM

My family plays this but we call it Boats - because we play with a dollar bill, and we fold up the corners whenever we lose a round. Once you've got all four corners folded up, it looks like you've got a little boat, and you're floating! Lose a fifth time, and you're out - you sank your boat.

Posted by: Windansea / Lydia at January 30, 2008 01:43 PM

My family has been playing this for as long as I can remember (and I'm 42). We called it "Rap" (not to be confused with that hideous excuse for music). When we called, we would say "rap" or just rap on the table. AKA "knock".

It was tradition every night at the cottage to gather around the table and play several games before bed. Most of the time we used two decks of cards because we had so many people playing. We started with three pennies, then moved on to nickles, dimes, and quarters.

Now that we're adults, we "kids" still play, but we start with quarters, move on to loonies (Canada's one dollar coin), twonies (the two dollar coin), and then the brave ones go in with three five dollar bills. Now THAT'S a healthy pot!

If my mother approaches the sunroom while we're playing, one of my nieces will say "here comes Grandma" and we all cover the money and tell her we're just playing for fun. She would freak if she knew we were playing high stakes.

After paying our three coins we called it "free riding" for one hand. Three of a kind also counted as 30. After someone rapped, as long as you had more than 21 you were safe. Everyone under that paid.

Sorry for the length of this, but you brought back some great memories. Cheers.

Posted by: Dave at January 30, 2008 01:45 PM

We used to play this game a lot when I was a kid. Slightly different rules though, but that might be because I'm Dutch. We called it 'eenendertigen' which just means thirty-one-ing (or something...).

In our rules, the dealer gave herself two hands of three cards. She could pick one up and decide whether or not she liked them. If she did, the other hand went on te discard pile. If she didn't she would put the looked at hand in the discard pile and take the other hand, unseen.

In our game you could also play three of a kind, which would be worth 30,5.

We hardly played with money, mostly everyone had three matches or buttons or something. Still lots of fun, though if I were to play it again now (which I really feel like now!) I think I'd spice it up some and add the quarters!

Posted by: Simone at January 30, 2008 02:04 PM

this is one of our favorite family games when we go to my grandparents. we call it the same thing and everything, only we are a bit nicer about if you knock and have the fewest points... we only have to put in one quarter (well, we play for dimes or nickels, but still). i think that if we played where we had to put in two, my mom would be out of the game in exactly two hands. she isn't much for enjoying card games! : )

Posted by: Ren at January 30, 2008 02:13 PM

How many ways can you work yarn into a bodice ripper? Well, knitting needles are a better defense than a hairpin..... What will the heroine do to save (or find) her great-grandmother's lace, um, lace cap? No, her great-grandmother's lace wedding gown! Which of course she winds up getting married in. So that's one.....

I'm printing out the rules for 31 to give to my dad. He broke his hip back in December and is in a rehab facility, where he's complaining that no one else there knows any card games. He prefers poker, but this will probably interest more people.

Posted by: eeyore at January 30, 2008 02:15 PM

I've already announced to the "Texas Hold-em Group" that this week we're playing "31" instead. I love cards games, ever since my childhood addiction to "Crazy-8s."

Posted by: Neil at January 30, 2008 02:26 PM

I love 31! It's what the grown-ups played when my Grandparents would come to visit us, although they played for nickels, not quarters.

Dad's favorite ploy was to knock on the first round unless he had a truly terrible hand. It seemed to work out most times.

Posted by: PetoskyTurtle at January 30, 2008 03:30 PM

My family plays solitaire. Perhaps this is the problem?

Posted by: Bossy at January 30, 2008 03:53 PM

Laurie - I wanted to write my dissertation as a bodice-ripping smut novel, but alas my advisor said the committee would frown on that. I then suggested a soap opera screenplay, but she wasn't really down with that either. Alas. . .

Personally, I'm with psychomom on the mysteries. I love 'em!

Posted by: Rachel at January 30, 2008 05:06 PM

We calls that skit skat and plays for nickels, which, if the person who is not the parent of the youngest child playing wins (didja follow that?), they give all the nickels to the youngest child.

Or their favorite child, but youngest player is traditional......

Posted by: Suzie at January 30, 2008 06:08 PM

If you add a little wine to this game it gets even funnier...we started "knocking" with different body parts..elbows, knees, and my aunt used her butt! Maybe we should have cut off her drinking by that point...hmmm...Thanks for the memories! :)

Posted by: Cheri at January 30, 2008 06:11 PM

Sounds like fun - I'm sending it on to my cardplaying buddies. Thank you!

Posted by: tami at January 30, 2008 09:21 PM

We spent most of our senior year in high school playing this game. How to play 31 was all I leaned that year in Civics. Nice, huh? Talk about no child left behind! hee (I had my 20Y reunion last year, no I don't want to talk about it. I only have 2 cats (and a dog) so it's ok.)

Posted by: mama speak at January 30, 2008 11:29 PM

Hey! We play that game at my house, but we call it Skit-Skat. So if you get 31, you say "Skit-Skat!" My five-year-old is very good. We play with dimes.

Posted by: Mandy at January 31, 2008 05:24 AM

My family calls it Magoo! Not sure what the story is about the name. I have never won -- for some reason I inevitably choke about 2 or 3 rounds from the end.

Posted by: jen at January 31, 2008 05:59 AM

i have played a variation on this game called Spoons. same set up except you place one spoon less then the amount of people playing in the middle of the table. then the first person to get 3 of a kind (not 31, hence variation) grabs a spoon. than havoc reeks and everyone grabs for a spoon. the last peson without a spoon is out. you keep going til there is one person with a spoon.

it is super fun, and gets funner the more you drink. one caveat, lots of elbows get thrown grabbing for spoons, so you'd better beware!

Posted by: Holly at January 31, 2008 07:29 AM

oh, and we play 31, but we call it Tonk. and we play Euchre, pinnochle, cribbage, poker, spades, heart, etc. we are a big card playing kind of family!

Posted by: Holly at January 31, 2008 07:33 AM

Our family calls it "Blitz". If you get '31', you yell, "BLITZ!!" and everyone throws in a quarter. (it used to be dimes when I was little)

Posted by: Natalie at January 31, 2008 08:31 AM

Uhm sorry all, this game is called Scat, and I love this game.

Posted by: Jan at January 31, 2008 10:00 AM

Oh! How did I miss this the first time? Skimming at work, that's how. You should totally write a bodice-ripper that is also a mystery and also has a female Horatio Alger in it. Sort of a Barbara Taylor Bradford-Danielle Steel-Mary Higgins Clark stew. You write better than any of them. Sorry, that's damning with faint praise: you write WAY better than any of them.

(MHC writes straight-out suspense, but she also writes whodunit-suspense. I always figure out who not more than 1/3 of the way through the book. It's the nice guy who doesn't seem to have anything to do with the plot.)

Posted by: Lucia at January 31, 2008 10:10 AM

Thanks so much. It is indeed the same. My grandmother loved to win the pennies and nickels off of us. No mercy to her grandchildren. Gotta start playing it again!

Posted by: NoRegrets at February 1, 2008 07:32 AM